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Offline Mudbug

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Good/Nice idea or not?
« on: March 25, 2013, 08:35:13 AM »
Is it a good/bad/nice idea will it catch on? I can see lots if plus's I must admit but wonder if it can be made cheaper???

 :mm   Video is CGi shame no real time video. Fluid is cold to the unit so not much cop if that part is frozen  :roll

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Re: Good/Nice idea or not?
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2013, 08:51:02 AM »
 :mm
On the Dolomite we had, I ran some washer tube from the washer bottle around the top hose a few times and then to the washer jet. Cheaper but only works when the engine is up to temp, which on a Tdi can be a while.

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Re: Good/Nice idea or not?
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2013, 08:56:47 AM »
It's not infallible.
 
Take a frozen windscreen, for instance. You have this system and acivate your heated wash water...
 
1. Frozen wipers activate immediately over ice. Or are still frozen to the 'screen.
 
2. The temperature difference could be such that it cracks the 'screen.
 
Their claims that it cuts through grease are valid, but decent screenwash does that pretty effectively these days. I'd like to see a few testimonials and independant tests to be convinced first.
 
 

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Re: Good/Nice idea or not?
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2013, 10:01:47 AM »
The over exuberant website and the cost (180!!  :eek ) would put me off!  Heated screen and washer jets on the Rangie seem to work OK for me. I can see it working if you could use the washers without the wipers kicking in but they seem to imply that you can just switch the lot on and drive away. Surely it'll take time for it all to de-frost by which time you could have burned out your wiper motor!

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Re: Good/Nice idea or not?
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2013, 10:17:56 AM »
It's all been done before and at 180 not what I'd call affordable for a gimmick. Si's comments are good reaons why not as well.
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Re: Good/Nice idea or not?
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2013, 10:33:10 AM »
A mate of mine has one in his 110, which he just took to Norway and back. I'll see if I can find out his opinion on it.

I bought an extended length of hose and wrapped it around the coolant pipes like Prof says. Agreed it isn't instant, but it isn't the best part of 200 either.

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Re: Good/Nice idea or not?
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2013, 02:32:36 PM »
I wonder just how effective it would be when it's really cold?! A fine spray would (I think) cool down  pretty rapidly and add the "wind chill" factor when a car is moving....  :?? :??

I could be wrong, but I can't see this making much of a difference.
Yeah, got a heated windscreen, plus heated seats, leccy windows & central locking.

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Re: Good/Nice idea or not?
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2013, 03:35:39 PM »
An alloy tank shaped like a horseshoe to fit around the downpipe would be better, pipes wrapped around the top hose or inlet manifold with heated jets.
It don't matter how warm the water is if the jets are iced up.
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Re: Good/Nice idea or not?
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2013, 03:57:06 PM »
My other issue, and this is just my experience, is that I don't use a lot of screenwash generally.
 
OK, during a motorway trip on wet salted roads it's an issue but other than that brief period I'll only fill my reservoir up once more every year. So two bottles of screenwash and the very occasional splurt of fluid.
 
Hardly seems worth heating up for what I imagine is negligible gain.
 
Compare, say during the summer bug-infested months, of a trigger bottle of glass cleaner and a cloth (highly effective for all glass and not just the front) or Chris's low-tech option and the arguments for this system get less and less.
 
If you travel a lot on a lot of long trips, then maybe it's got serious merit, but day-to-day?

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Re: Good/Nice idea or not?
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2013, 04:32:54 PM »
My personal solution to this is much more low tech, I just use a low freezing point screenwash. Easy to get hold of in Europe but you have to order it over here :??  The one I have in now is Aral Arctic spec which is good to -25 if used neat, If you purge all the water from the system and fill with this stuff it works fine at UK temps, I have washers straight away most mornings and have used it down to minus 14 in Germany.


If you really don't want it to freeze, add about 1/3rd pint of meths to a standard washer bottle and top up with neat screenwash.


Last 5 litre can of Arctic wash cost me 8.99 from a local motor factors, which is much cheaper than this Gizmo. 
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Re: Good/Nice idea or not?
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2013, 08:29:03 PM »
Personally I use Lidls finest screenwash - smells of lemon too!! :lol
Yeah, got a heated windscreen, plus heated seats, leccy windows & central locking.

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Re: Good/Nice idea or not?
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2013, 09:49:28 PM »
We just use - 25 C screenwash and the Webasto Pre-Heater.  :cheesy

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Re: Good/Nice idea or not?
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2013, 04:41:40 AM »
Minus 40C washer fluid and either park it indoors or get the scrapper out and do some work while you engine oil warms up a bit. :lol
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Re: Good/Nice idea or not?
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2013, 08:16:36 AM »
I tried a concoction of Lidl dishwasher rinse aid plus a good dose of meths. Worked well but the meths fumes were interesting to say the least!
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Re: Good/Nice idea or not?
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2013, 09:53:29 AM »
good dose of meths.
I know there's no pub for 3 or 4 miles, but meths?  :cheesy
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